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Old 5th October 2016, 09:45 AM
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I have always been a fan of the BSA guns, they are robust, easily modified dependable have good barrels and with work can be made into a very competitive rifle. Some of them are even quite good out of the box!
Having had a few chats with them over the years on the subject of stock design I am delighted to see they have now finally produced an adjustable cheek piece with less change in width that is in line with the barrel. Fore and aft head movement to close the sight picture down to eliminate px error or get better clarity for a shot and even different head positions used in prone and upright shots etc wont affect eye alignment as much. It would be even better if it didn't drop away at the back!
I cant help feeling it is like putting lipstick on a pig though fitting it on a thumbhole ambi stock with a reeeaaalllly deep pistol grip!! (but more vertical, that's good!) Still at least there is hope they will improve it further in the future?!


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Old 7th October 2016, 06:39 PM
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wonder why they didn,t make the cheek piece from the original part of the stock instead of adding that horrible black thing,

I did have an r10mk2 and have to say it was a cracking little rifle
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probably saving the wooden cheekpieces for when they bring out a plastic stock version
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With a decent butt pad it could be the rifle most suited to HFT that they make?!
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wonder why they didn,t make the cheek piece from the original part of the stock instead of adding that horrible black thing,
The way they do it, they can machine the cut out at the same time the stock is produced, all as one activity. What would have been the cheekpiece is now sawdust.

The horrible black thing is mass produced and all of them will be identical.

Cutting out the cheekpiece with a bandsaw and using the same piece is a much more lengthy job and would best be done by an operator rather than a machine. All stocks vary in terms of grain and figuring, and choosing the best cut line is a matter of judgement each time. Thus, no interchangeability. Make a mistake and you bin the stock.
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Even the posh guys cut this corner. A crap plastic cheekpeice that doesnt even raise high enough for an HFT scope never mind the FT that they market it for.
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With most stocks there's not enough depth to hide the riser pins if you want long pins.
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The problem arises from many manufacturers still modelling their pcp stocks on springer stocks that were used with iron sights and therefore had a low comb, and the springer barrels were much lower than a pcp's in a similar position to the air res!
These days nearly everyone uses a scope and has to put up with a stock that is not ideal or change it.

It is good that BSA have put this on their lower end Ultra, it probably means we will se it on the models higher up their range in the future too.

I don't think the aftermarket stock makers need to worry yet though, it will take for ever for them to produce anything really good! How long has the pcp been around? and they are only just starting to make a high enough cheek piece that can be adjusted properly for a scope! We just need the forestock inletting and pistol grip sorting and we wont have to replace them with aftermarket ones!

The things we change and tailor to increase our HFT scores would also increase an hunters hit rate. I get the impression some manufacturers think a rifle designed for HFT is a niche product rather than something that would be far better suited to general shooting than the present offerings.
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