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Old 29th August 2016, 09:56 AM
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Just checking if the following Anschutz butt hook is ok for HFT, obviously without the armadillo rod, because I will be using it with the rod for FT anyway.

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http://www.shooting-the-breeze.com/f...465562&thumb=1 quick photo of Pete back in 1988.

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Old 29th August 2016, 04:41 PM
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The bottom arm can't be more then 2 1/4 " if that helps.
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Old 29th August 2016, 05:19 PM
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I would recommend you check a few previous posts by mr dutton(scooby) regarding this, as scutter says 2.25 inches for both paddls I believe, not just the bottom one , this is taken from where the paddle leaves the vertical inside face,
could be a bit ambiguos with an Skp as there are no straight faces, but in the interest of good sportmanship , if you take the p, you know whats coming,
I recently asked a well known lady shooter how she, s getting on with her new gun, the reply was ,

I cant make my mind up if the butt hooks in the right place, ...........my scars are still healing, lol
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Oh I have no intention of taking the P. The butt hook belonged to Dave Harrison and I wanted to use it for FT which I can and I fully intend to take up HFT as well. With the same rifle and scope. So I am trying out Nomads and getting back into the swing of shooting. So the obvious question is "Can I or not?? Obviously the armadillo rod is removed as in the other photo.
I left air-rifle shooting back in 1996 after 14 years of committees - Club / MFTA / EFTA / BFTA and I have come back to 2 separate FT disciplines - disappointed to say the least. Back in 1991 we recommended that courses had 2 targets on 5 easy lanes - 1 for AA shooters and one for others i.e. 1 target at 40mm and one at 25mm. Obviously it wasn't passed. That would have made an interesting course.
But hey ho things move on.
So is there any chart or some such to show where to measure from and you say 2.5 inches total? and from which flat.
And as for trawling through the thousands of posts Pete has done - well that's why I am asking the question.
The other reason is I want to enter the competition on Sunday down at the Nomads and I would hate for someone to object and all the problems that brings.
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No chart for HFT Butt hooks that I know of...........you just need to read the UKAHFT rules and interpret them the best that you can. Dont forget, just to make it even more interesting, not all regions have the same rules regarding butt hooks and HFT ,and do not always follow the UKAHFT rules. If you want the official UKAHFT and you are still not clear you need to speak to Pete Dutton as has already been mentioned.

Personally I think that you will struggle to set up any gun properly to shoot both FT and HFT with.

Not quite sure why you are disappointed that there are two disciplines though. Got to be a good thing as it has brought a lot of shooters into FT and HFT, and a lot shoot both.
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No chart for HFT Butt hooks that I know of...........you just need to read the UKAHFT rules and interpret them the best that you can. Dont forget, just to make it even more interesting, not all regions have the same rules regarding butt hooks and HFT ,and do not always follow the UKAHFT rules. If you want the official UKAHFT and you are still not clear you need to speak to Pete Dutton as has already been mentioned.

Personally I think that you will struggle to set up any gun properly to shoot both FT and HFT with.

Not quite sure why you are disappointed that there are two disciplines though. Got to be a good thing as it has brought a lot of shooters into FT and HFT, and a lot shoot both.


Not quite sure why you are disappointed that there are two disciplines though. Got to be a good thing as it has brought a lot of shooters into FT and HFT, and a lot shoot both. [/QUOTE]

The 2 disciplines used to run as one and it just seems that commercialism has somehow guided the 2 disciplines in different directions. Range-finders -why?
Club shoots at Stourvale Woodsmen back in early 90;s had 140 + members - average club Sunday shoot - 40 shooters.

MFTA charity shoot at Arley back in 1988 we had literally hundreds of shooters there as we ran an Airgunner Grand Prix leg and an Airgun World Showdown shoot at the same time the winner was Pete Snatchfold. 580 entrants that day.

The only down side to that day was Dave Hammill with his floppy hat in his flowery shorts asking for butter on his bacon sandwich.

In case anyone thinks this is sour grapes it is not. I cannot see why we are pricing the new shooters out of the sport at the very beginning. 15mm kills doesn't encourage anybody to spend loads of money to get a gun for the son or daughter for them to get no-where and then dis-illusioned they leave not to return. Good marketing that Eh!

Sorry rant over

Oh and setting the gun and scope up for both FT and HFT is easier than you think
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Well actually my older daughter is having a go at HFt again!! The only reason she stopped before was due to travelling and work getting in the way, I am pretty sure mini kills never scared her.In fact there are some very promising young shooters coming through the ranks.

I know what you are saying about two disciplines but Ft just spiralled into expensive kit as you know, but HFT really came about to take FT back to its roots where you were all shooting 3x9 scopes which I think is a good thing. PS Dave Hammil appears on the scene now and then, not seen his flowery shorts though.

regarding setting up a FT/HFT gun, yeah you can, but it will be full of compromises. The only FT scopes that can be used sensibly for HFt are the 8x32x40 Burris or Bushnells in my opinion. But hey ho you know best, I've only been shooting for 40 years and HFT comps for 10, what do I know.
I will bet you end up with two guns though!


Interesting to get your views on the sport now though.No offence meant, so good luck and welcome back.
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Nostalgia...ita funny old thing..innit
that buttuck hook looks like it came from lovehoney.com ...not that I ever heard of them o'course
why not take the P...thats what HFT is all about I thought...the shooting is just secondary..I think..
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Not quite sure why you are disappointed that there are two disciplines though. Got to be a good thing as it has brought a lot of shooters into FT and HFT, and a lot shoot both.
The 2 disciplines used to run as one and it just seems that commercialism has somehow guided the 2 disciplines in different directions. Range-finders -why?
Club shoots at Stourvale Woodsmen back in early 90;s had 140 + members - average club Sunday shoot - 40 shooters.

MFTA charity shoot at Arley back in 1988 we had literally hundreds of shooters there as we ran an Airgunner Grand Prix leg and an Airgun World Showdown shoot at the same time the winner was Pete Snatchfold. 580 entrants that day.

The only down side to that day was Dave Hammill with his floppy hat in his flowery shorts asking for butter on his bacon sandwich.

In case anyone thinks this is sour grapes it is not. I cannot see why we are pricing the new shooters out of the sport at the very beginning. 15mm kills doesn't encourage anybody to spend loads of money to get a gun for the son or daughter for them to get no-where and then dis-illusioned they leave not to return. Good marketing that Eh!

Sorry rant over

Oh and setting the gun and scope up for both FT and HFT is easier than you think[/QUOTE]





I dont think the butt hook will be any good for HFT or FT for that fact as it may well interfere with the chip thats on you shoulder.
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