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Old 8th August 2016, 01:57 PM
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Thumbs up to RS who also makes the shoots stats persons easier too


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Human Shaun is great too lol

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Old 8th August 2016, 02:10 PM
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No suggestions for change as I am happy with things but I do have a question.

What happens if you get hit by the proverbial bus? Do we have anyone else with access to the code with a knowledge of how to modify things or do we go back to manual Shaun?
You're back to a spreadsheet basically
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Old 8th August 2016, 02:18 PM
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As a contingency, we have Shaun Mark 2

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Old 8th August 2016, 03:57 PM
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Think it works well.

I think we need to tighten up on session swapping and overload just because it's not always possible to accommodate changes, and then when we get people drop out there's a quizzicle ? as to why those changes could be accommodated. Weather does seem to play a part in that... having been at the helm on a few GP's now the one thing you can show is that a wet weather GP will mean cancellations.

Pre-payment will probably be on the cards as an experiment for next year.

When I get all the contact email addresses for November then the booking open times can be setup at the meeting so people can set a reminder of when to look at booking in.

I'm going to mandate it. Unless I have an email for booking in at the november meeting, the BFTA won't list your GP.

Could the sec/chair send that out when they send out the other GM stuff?
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Old 8th August 2016, 04:04 PM
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AA, B, C
A, B, C
P, B, C
O, B, C

Etc, etc

I worked that out to be a possible only 60 perms max, stick the odd rule in and it would be less, something to do on the plane over to the Worlds perhaps Bri
I don't think most people would like that type of solution.

Here's an example of why...

In the PM Session at GP7 there were 20 AA shooters and 22 A shooters and 25 lanes.. it's quite common for there to be less AA shooters than lanes, so by trying to distribute shooters by grade what you'd end up doing is putting a single AA shooter on each lane, then a single A shooter on each lane, then padding them out with the other grades.

The net effect of that would be that an AA grade shooter would have no chance of partnering another AA grade shooter. Don't forget, it's not just C grade shooters who learn from shooters at a higher grade, I bet there's quite a few AA grade shooters who wouldn't mind partnering someone like Ian Taylor, Jack Harris, Justin Wood etc etc.. to see if they could pick up some tips.

With a random system - you've got the same chance as anyone else of shooting round with anyone from a different club, there's also the chance that you might be partnered with a person you've been partnered with before - it's random, that's what random means.

And actually when you look at how a random system breaks things down, it's usually quite a good distribution of grades anyway.

This is the grade distribution from the PM session at GP7 :

LANE
1 AA A B
2 AA AA A
3 AA A O
4 AA A A
5 AA B B
6 AA A P
7 AA AA
8 B B C
9 AA A O
10 AA B C
11 A A C
12 AA A B
13 AA A A
14 A P O
15 AA AA
16 A A B
17 AA A A
18 A B C
19 A P O
20 AA A P
21 AA AA A
22 AA AA G
23 C O
24 A B C
25 B C

I'd say that's quite fair.. it's just luck of the draw, the alternative solution you've just come up with is less fair as far as I can see - so erm, no I won't be wasting my time playing with spreadsheets on a plane
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Averages per for all the series:

AA 35
A 42
B 22
C 14
O 10
P 10

Not broken it down into sessions tho but I'm not against random, just interested in exploring

That's wrong on the PM lane 1 mind Bri.
A,B,P - that was my lane.
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I'm going to mandate it. Unless I have an email for booking in at the november meeting, the BFTA won't list your GP.

Could the sec/chair send that out when they send out the other GM stuff?
He could, if he remembers.... Ooh look a castle....
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Would you prefer it if some extra constraints were added into Robot Shaun's lane allocation algorithm.. for example that you never shoot with the same person throughout a GP series? .
One of the things I like is shooting with people I have not shot with or perhaps only very occasionally get the chance to shoot with..
So I would say shooters from same region as apposed to same club should not be paired together where possible
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Averages per for all the series:

AA 35
A 42
B 22
C 14
O 10
P 10

Not broken it down into sessions tho but I'm not against random, just interested in exploring

That's wrong on the PM lane 1 mind Bri.
A,B,P - that was my lane.
Ooops yeah, that was the AM session, clicked the wrong button.
We had a few feeder lanes on the PM Session too, so there were more than 25 groups.

I think it's rare for the number of shooters from any grade to exceed the number of lanes, so if we followed a system of distributing grades evenly across lanes it would mean you would never shoot with someone of the same grade as you.
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One of the things I like is shooting with people I have not shot with or perhaps only very occasionally get the chance to shoot with..
So I would say shooters from same region as apposed to same club should not be paired together where possible
I'll investigate how easy that would be to achieve
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