Shooting the breeze The BSB Butt Pad  
Go Back   Shooting the breeze > The Chat > Hunter / Field Target

Hunter / Field Target Anything metal target related...

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #61  
Old 27th July 2016, 10:37 AM
Welsh Wizard's Avatar
Welsh Wizard Welsh Wizard is offline
Oaktree 60 Open 2016
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Member of: Oaktree, Avon Hawkes, Hariers.
Location: Swansea
Posts: 1,115
Default

AM and Pm Next lol !!!!
__________________
.
.
.
.

BFTA Grading Question to simon.evans2@ntlworld.com


Updated Bfta % by region and grade

http://www.thebfta.net/forum/index.php/board,44.0.html


[B] [SIZE="3"]Photos on BFTA Fbook page, tall and short !!
Reply With Quote
  #62  
Old 27th July 2016, 10:42 AM
Andy P's Avatar
Andy P Andy P is offline
Gently does it......
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Member of: Mid Shires Marksmen
Location: Bedfordshire
Posts: 81
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Welsh Wizard View Post


be interesting to see if the inclusion of pistion at Euro draws more etries, as it has been said having no grades in pcp at euro puts some lower grade shooters off. Perhaps some of those that have been put off will give spring a go?.
I'm going to the Euros this year and I'm debating just that, PCP or Springer.? probably do springer.? if I grow a big enough pair ba**s
__________________
Play
Reply With Quote
  #63  
Old 27th July 2016, 10:49 AM
Yorkshiretea's Avatar
Yorkshiretea Yorkshiretea is offline
B Grade Bandit
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Member of: Anston FTC
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 2,216
Default

Si,

I was joking with those comments, the courses are hard enough for me but I'm just an average Joe with little to no time to practice at the minute.
__________________
BFTA Shop
Reply With Quote
  #64  
Old 27th July 2016, 10:51 AM
Yorkshiretea's Avatar
Yorkshiretea Yorkshiretea is offline
B Grade Bandit
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Member of: Anston FTC
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 2,216
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy P View Post
I'm going to the Euros this year and I'm debating just that, PCP or Springer.? probably do springer.? if I grow a big enough pair ba**s
Doesn't put me off but we have our own cup and side bets going.
__________________
BFTA Shop
Reply With Quote
  #65  
Old 27th July 2016, 11:06 AM
RobF's Avatar
RobF RobF is offline
My Empire of Dirt
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Member of: Southampton Buccaneers, Parkstone, South Dorset
Location: Poole, Dorset
Posts: 10,325
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Welsh Wizard View Post
That does not work either Rob, he would have no results!

Same for most others who don't do enough Bfta shoots to get an up to date and accurate average.
(I will be including some stats on this in the Agm report)

If we changed to Bfta only we would have to move the % barriers again, it would be far easier to throw a score and ring and generally more people would be saying he or she is in the wrong Grade?
Are you really an A grader ??
Why would I be an A grader? Unless you move the grade boundary to 90% i'm well in. Unless you're going to mix piston back in with PCP which I think is a massive step backward.

He would have his regional results. That would make his regional grade. If he did a national then we'd be in exactly the same situation as we are now anyway, except we'd have a bank of regional results to make a judgement against.

Moving the boundaries isn't an issue. If they need moving, move them. Ideally we should be looking for an equal amount of people in the GP series. And if regional scores are seperated then the regions can make up their own boundaries to do the same. It would also stop ringing (if that happens) as people wouldn't know the target grade to get under for the end of season.
__________________
BFTA/NSRA County Coach
CSFTA Chairman/BFTA Rep
Reply With Quote
  #66  
Old 27th July 2016, 11:16 AM
countorik countorik is offline
BFTA C Grade Champion 2010
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Member of: Tondu.
Location: SWANSEA
Posts: 483
Default Piston class

My previous post was only in reference to GPs.
I'm not saying that it's not possible to attain a AA grade at regional level.
Reply With Quote
  #67  
Old 27th July 2016, 11:52 AM
Welsh Wizard's Avatar
Welsh Wizard Welsh Wizard is offline
Oaktree 60 Open 2016
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Member of: Oaktree, Avon Hawkes, Hariers.
Location: Swansea
Posts: 1,115
Default Last post on the matter, Springers are mad anyway

Quote:
Originally Posted by RobF View Post
Why would I be an A grader?

He would have his regional results. That would make his regional grade. If he did a national then we'd be in exactly the same situation as we are now anyway, except we'd have a bank of regional results to make a judgement against.
And if regional scores are seperated then the regions can make up their own boundaries to do the same. It would also stop ringing (if that happens) as people wouldn't know the target grade to get under for the end of season.
Please dont think i am picking on you, but with the Bfta only results, your on 82%. There are a number of other top AA shooters that would also fall a grade or be 1 poor result from being A Grade, same as there are A - b, b - c.
As I said, I will include in my report for the Agm the reason why BFTA "only" does not work, I have been monitoring it now for 2 years.
It only takes one to be in the perceived wrong grade and there is pages and pages of cr ap followed by hours of more cr ap at agm! God knows its been hard enough to improve things over the last 4 years!

I don't know Mr.Turner, but I do know in the past 3 years I have only been sent 4 results for him, 3 of which have been recorded as Pcp, 2 of which will be deleted in September as being o.o.d. That is one of the pitfalls of Bfta only, shooters who do not shoot many comps a year.

Your idea of regional only wont stop ringing.
i.e.
I have had a fairly poor Gp season and potentially have 3 more Bfta results this season. If I average 73% at those events I am Bfta A grade next Summer. So it matters not how well I improve (or not) over the winter, I`m A grade 2017.
I`m not a fan of electing to upgrade, generally your result is a reflection on how well you have shot not how ell you think you shoot. Besides, its only takes one "not" to elect to upgrade!

Over and Sprout as the saying once went
__________________
.
.
.
.

BFTA Grading Question to simon.evans2@ntlworld.com


Updated Bfta % by region and grade

http://www.thebfta.net/forum/index.php/board,44.0.html


[B] [SIZE="3"]Photos on BFTA Fbook page, tall and short !!
Reply With Quote
  #68  
Old 27th July 2016, 12:16 PM
RobF's Avatar
RobF RobF is offline
My Empire of Dirt
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Member of: Southampton Buccaneers, Parkstone, South Dorset
Location: Poole, Dorset
Posts: 10,325
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Welsh Wizard View Post
Please dont think i am picking on you, but with the Bfta only results, your on 82%. There are a number of other top AA shooters that would also fall a grade or be 1 poor result from being A Grade, same as there are A - b, b - c.
As I said, I will include in my report for the Agm the reason why BFTA "only" does not work, I have been monitoring it now for 2 years.
It only takes one to be in the perceived wrong grade and there is pages and pages of cr ap followed by hours of more cr ap at agm! God knows its been hard enough to improve things over the last 4 years!

I don't know Mr.Turner, but I do know in the past 3 years I have only been sent 4 results for him, 3 of which have been recorded as Pcp, 2 of which will be deleted in September as being o.o.d. That is one of the pitfalls of Bfta only, shooters who do not shoot many comps a year.

Your idea of regional only wont stop ringing.
i.e.
I have had a fairly poor Gp season and potentially have 3 more Bfta results this season. If I average 73% at those events I am Bfta A grade next Summer. So it matters not how well I improve (or not) over the winter, I`m A grade 2017.
I`m not a fan of electing to upgrade, generally your result is a reflection on how well you have shot not how ell you think you shoot. Besides, its only takes one "not" to elect to upgrade!

Over and Sprout as the saying once went
No Si, I get that.

Clive is down as PCP because up until it was seperated we didn't bother marking any difference. We only have one class in CSFTA, no open or springer or anything else, we just have grades.

I'd elect to go up. I know what's me and what's not.
__________________
BFTA/NSRA County Coach
CSFTA Chairman/BFTA Rep
Reply With Quote
  #69  
Old 27th July 2016, 01:15 PM
Darron's Avatar
Darron Darron is offline
Reformed Bandit
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Member of: Millride FTC
Location: Brownhills West Midlands
Posts: 682
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yorkshiretea View Post
Si,

I was joking with those comments, the courses are hard enough for me but I'm just an average Joe with little to no time to practice at the minute.
I doubt Joe will be happy about that
__________________
FTP 900
March 80x
Reply With Quote
  #70  
Old 27th July 2016, 06:26 PM
Dave Ramshead's Avatar
Dave Ramshead Dave Ramshead is offline
UKAHFT Champion 2010 & 11
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Member of: Rivington Riflemen
Location: Preston, Lancs
Posts: 1,082
Thumbs up

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yorkshiretea View Post
Most of us on the thread are joking about this Dave The course's this year have been some of the best and most balanced I've shoot and the fact that only (I think) 4 GP's have ever been cleared suggests we've got some way to go before we need to make them any harder.
Righto Martin, as you were, wake me up if owt juicy goes on
__________________
http://www.rivington-riflemen.eu
http://www.nwaf.eu
BASC Team England HFT 2010,11,12,13,14,15,16 &17
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
New Piston plyguy General Airgun Chat 0 25th May 2014 04:24 PM
TX200 Piston D. Clark General Airgun Chat 6 3rd March 2012 09:30 PM


All times are GMT. The time now is 02:57 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
shooting-the-breeze.com Skin design and concept by Attitude