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Old 22nd July 2016, 11:33 PM
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Good luck with that then Vinny! I always used to get some one else to fit the stock, (Usually the bloke that made them Dave Halls) All the one's that he did seen ok.

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Old 26th July 2016, 07:47 PM
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Hi
I have had issues with some Ginb stocks in the past on tx200's, which I over come by using washers as mentioned in an earlier post.
So basically the action is mounted on the 2 for-end screws & tight down on the rear bolt without the length of the action being pulled tight down in to the stock.

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Old 26th July 2016, 07:55 PM
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I have had issues with some Ginb stocks in the past on tx200's, which I over come by using washers as mentioned in an earlier post.
So basically the action is mounted on the 2 for-end screws & tight down on the rear bolt without the length of the action being pulled tight down in to the stock.

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Thanks Jon , seems to be now getting a common theme, gonna have a go at making a stainless plate and tube affair in the inside of the area, I can then still tighten down the action securely
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Have you considered returning it and say "This don't fit" or "this buggers up a perfectly good gun"?
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Old 26th July 2016, 09:09 PM
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Have you considered returning it and say "This don't fit" or "this buggers up a perfectly good gun"?
Ever tried your own advice mike, hows the fwb ?, thanks for the input though, I think most things have relatively simple solutions to improve them , I, m sure I will get there eventually , either that or a bit of expensive firewood
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Old 27th July 2016, 05:52 PM
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Ever tried your own advice mike, hows the fwb ?
I did follow my advice. Had a polite response back and its awaiting an official trip to Germany.
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Old 27th July 2016, 08:44 PM
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I did follow my advice. Had a polite response back and its awaiting an official trip to Germany.
just joking ith you mike, hopefully thatll b the last time you have problems with ita much more sensible approach than lobbing it on the deck in a rage like someone I know did with their walther , incidentally I just checked the rear contact points between the action and the stock and I reckon it was just being supported on the rear radius corners , about a 5mm sided triangle area on both sides ,took them down , re checked and sanded the high points out, and got the whole length now touching in most places , dunno if thats gonna help but its got to be a lot more stable , just goes to show how an apparently good snug fit is actually very misleading
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Never really had problems with a John Welham stock on my HW77,although when taking it apart I gently shave the witness marks on the stock inleting which show up when a light rubbing in of stock conditioner is used.
When action installed I ensure the spacing along the action and stock is even,( not free floating)although the anchor points of trigger block and u bracket anchor points at front are even when tightened and gaps the same to stock.
Although not free floating,and neither clamped tight onto stock,it seems to be a combination of both but it works and is very accurate and consistant..
Removal and replacement changes its characteristics every time slightly so unless it is crucial I leave well alone and try to shoot in dry conditions to avoid doing so.
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So , finished the radius end , the bit where the trigger end section sits in the stock which had a fair bit of rough finishing , removed supporting inletting between before and aft supports either sides, one side seemed tighter than the other against the action,the original stock has no supports here , moved the cheeck piece right over by modding the inletting of the underneath , checked today with the skp and happy days , much better , and with a variety of holding positions , now grouping ok considering I was checking outside, 25mm at 55 yds will do me without the fun of pellet testing and shimming the areas aforementioned .... groan thats next
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So final conclusion on the CS 1000 stock fitment
I repeated checking the action and stock contact points where I ended up getting about 8mm of contact all along the edge of the cocking lever groove in front of the trigger unit area , no matter how I ended up sanding this area it wouldnt really change, hmm, then it twigged , the original inletting radius was too big .
I made a plastic 0.4 mm shim to sit in the rear trigger contact area which made it fit nice and central /snug in the stock, no poi shifts , all seems ok after a month of checking ,
so conclude,
If the end radius of the trigger unit recess in the stock was increased a bit ,the action wouldnt have sat above the rest of the inletting , also fitting the cradle shim made it laterally more stable perhaps , certainly hasnt had any poi shifts even when ive had it in and out of the stock for lube/ general fettling , havent bothered with the tube and washer round the main fastening screw as all seems fixed
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