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Old 16th May 2016, 04:18 PM
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hi. im pretty new to the group so please excuse me if this has been asked before.
has anyone fitted a reg to their s400 and what were their experiences with the results. which one did you use.
im not sure if the s400 will benefit hugely from one as its power seems pretty stable mostly

but being new to hft all advice is welcome

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Old 16th May 2016, 04:43 PM
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should add that this is a superlight version also
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I've run 400's with and without,and yes you get a few more shots, but I don't think it is worth it.
I got about 100 shots from a regged 400 with a Ben Taylor reg running about 4 fps shot to shot. A standard gun will do a good 60 shots in the sweet spot running at the same shot to shot velocity all within approx 15 fps. That's plenty good enough for Hft.
almost every gun I have owned with an manufacturers reg has at some time leaked.
If you do decide to fit one I'd personally go for a Tench reg.
I can honestly say though that I have never felt that either of my MPR's would have benefited from a reg when shooting HFT comps. Just keep your fill pressure to 160/170 bar maximum and see how you go on.
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There is a bit of variability from what many people say an unregulated gun will do in terms of shot count and spread.
My daughters 400 would do 40 good shots within an 8fps band with weighed pellets, plus another 15 if you opened the tolerance up from 8 to 15fps. You have to be careful to put the right fill pressure in, then make sure you don't shoot too many.

In regulated format, the gun would do 100 shots, 7 fps total spread with the same weighed pellets. The pressure gauge on the 400 doesn't read cylendar pressure, but instead reads the smaller regulated chamber pressure (approx 90). The regulated gun could be filled to 200bar and shot down to reg pressure, so a much larger working band than without reg.

The best aftermarket regulators currently on the market IMHO are Dave Welhams (airmasters88). I've had 4 of Dave's regs over the years and recommend his work highly.
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I was thinking of putting a reg in mine but after running it over the chrono, it is already more consistent than my regulated gun. so no point really .
make sure the hammer and rail are well polished and it should be good.
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I have an S400 with a Altaros Regulator and it runs sweet as a nut but then again the wife shoots a non regulated MPR and that also shoots sweet as a nut.............

Not much help really
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A mate and I have fitted a couple Rob Lane regs, on to a 400 and the other to a 200.
For a s400 doing hft you will get no benefit, its one extra thing to go wrong and will need servicing sooner or later.

For a 200 I'd say go for it as unregged they have very little more than the bare minimum to shoot a course (say35).
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hi. im pretty new to the group so please excuse me if this has been asked before.
has anyone fitted a reg to their s400 and what were their experiences with the results. which one did you use.
im not sure if the s400 will benefit hugely from one as its power seems pretty stable mostly

but being new to hft all advice is welcome

thanks
I think theres a bit of miss understanding in this area tbh , most guns that come with regs are top end kit , generally with stabilisers , good triggers ect ,
if youve got a regged gun you tend to chrono it a lot to make sure all is well , some times you hear people distraught that their guns got a 15fps swing , oh god no wonder I cant hit stuff, really , I dont think so, maybe indoor bench shooters at long distances
its something else to get paranoid about , dont get me wrong 15fps swing isnt that good for a reg but I dont think its gonna make a lot of difference to your shooting ,
being a newbie, keep your money in your pocket and ask for a look at other peoples kit , generally they will ask if you want a shot or two anyway,
My hft500 is almost identical to your 400 and its as accurate as my regged 900
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Swap the S400 for a well sorted springer, single digit fps spreads no problem. Then you can use the reg money for psychiatric counseling to help you through all the other issues and frustrations
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Swap the S400 for a well sorted springer, single digit fps spreads no problem. Then you can use the reg money for psychiatric counseling to help you through all the other issues and frustrations
I'm not sure which issues I have but as for the springer, my vmach hw95k fits the bill quite well
Thanks for your concern of my mental wellbeing tho lol
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