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Is there likely to be a cheaper version?
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As I said, the reason for the 0.1yard or meters readout is to future proof the equipment and not to limit skilled shooters that may be able to reach this level.

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Sure but you don't directly answer the question I asked. I'd have answered: Yes you can repeatable hit 50.1, 50.2, 50.3 with no problems at all after asking twice I'm still not sure what the answer is Derek I'm not trying to catch you out with anything I'm just asking because I'd like to know and I'm very interested in the technical side as well.
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I can repeatedly rangefind to 0.5 of a yard with my analogue AO scope.
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Sure but you don't directly answer the question I asked. I'd have answered: Yes you can repeatable hit 50.1, 50.2, 50.3 with no problems at all after asking twice I'm still not sure what the answer is Derek I'm not trying to catch you out with anything I'm just asking because I'd like to know and I'm very interested in the technical side as well.
It doesn't matter if you can... what matters is that the device can measure it. You always want the device you are measuring with to have a greater degree of accuracy and precision than the thing you are measuring. From the sounds of it it doesn't cost any more either.

If one of the ideas to be able to share data between shooters goes ahead, you'll see what others are capable of.

But it's a bit hard to say how repeatable 50.1 is without actually having a device capable of measuring that.
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Theoretically, if the scope were capable of it! The limiting factors of course are the resolution of the optics and the accuracy of the wet bits! The human eye and brain.

You couldn't bolt this onto a 70 ZOS and expect to resolve to 0.1 yards at 55 yards.
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It doesn't matter if you can... what matters is that the device can measure it. You always want the device you are measuring with to have a greater degree of accuracy and precision than the thing you are measuring. From the sounds of it it doesn't cost any more either.

If one of the ideas to be able to share data between shooters goes ahead, you'll see what others are capable of.

But it's a bit hard to say how repeatable 50.1 is without actually having a device capable of measuring that.
Don't disagree in theory but in practice trying to get 50 points between 50 & 55yds is pretty impossible unless you're using a 950mm wheel I'm trying to get at what the reality actually is beyond the "flashy" numbers. I love the numbers, I love the tech but...

So, in practice on a standard 150mm wheel, how may points between 50 and 55yds can one expect to see?
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Don't disagree in theory but in practice trying to get 50 points between 50 & 55yds is pretty impossible unless you're using a 950mm wheel I'm trying to get at what the reality actually is beyond the "flashy" numbers. I love the numbers, I love the tech but...

So, in practice on a standard 150mm wheel, how may points between 50 and 55yds can one expect to see?
If you're really against the decimal place, why not just put a bit of black tape over that part of the display

btw - I had a look at one of these at GP1, really cool actually, I was impressed and I didn't expect to be,

It also corrects your clicks for inclined shots ( and doesn't use the incorrect Riflemans formula to come up with the answer )
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If you're really against the decimal place, why not just put a bit of black tape over that part of the display

btw - I had a look at one of these at GP1, really cool actually, I was impressed and I didn't expect to be,

It also corrects your clicks for inclined shots ( and doesn't use the incorrect Riflemans formula to come up with the answer )
LOL I'm not, it could measure in 1um for me and that's fine, I'm just wondering what the reality of the translation is because I'm excited about the project and if it's possible, then brilliant. If it can hit 51, 52, 53 I'll be chuffed, sorry if it's coming across as difficult, I'm just really interested.
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I watched John Costello range find a target twice - it came up as 39.6 yards both times.
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Don't disagree in theory but in practice trying to get 50 points between 50 & 55yds is pretty impossible unless you're using a 950mm wheel I'm trying to get at what the reality actually is beyond the "flashy" numbers. I love the numbers, I love the tech but...

So, in practice on a standard 150mm wheel, how may points between 50 and 55yds can one expect to see?
Hi YT,

I wasn't avoiding the question as it depends on the shooter.
I'll have to work out the effective size a side wheel would need to be to match the resolution of the DSW.

For example, we have a test / training function that records 5 attempts at focusing on a target, the DSW shows these 5 ranges. It's a simple "how repeatable is my eye test".
This measures the effective wheel focus position to 0.01 yards.

So to answer your question, yes the DSW will range to 0.1 yards easily - this is a real number relating to the wheel focus position, the repeatability is dependant of how good the shooter is and the scope used.
And that is one of the interesting parts, as we can now measure exactly how good or bad we are at ranging
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