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Yes, otherwise how are you measuring anything other than an opinion?
Right. So back to my point then. To show objectivity you need data.

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Can shooter be objective without data/process awareness? Yes
So answer is actually no. Otherwise it's just opinion.
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So answer is actually no. Otherwise it's just opinion.
But what if it's found to be correct after being tested? Is that possible? Yes it is.
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But what if it's found to be correct after being tested? Is that possible? Yes it is.
Yes it is. It's entirely possible to get the same answer but it doesn't mean the process to get there an objective one. Otherwise we may as well say objectivity is the same as guessing a 6 when you roll a dice and if it rolls to a 6 then you're being objective. You're not. You're guessing.

As I have said, peeling shooters away from results and outcomes that they have less or no control over and getting them to understand it's the processes that they do control that make the difference, is difficult... because they think that getting to an answer of a falling target means that the process was good. It doesn't. Some know that. Ask Calps about if a falling target means it was a good shot or not...
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I know where you're coming from Rob

Have you seen the data stream from the DSW?
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It's not a measuring competition !

It's a see who can knock the most tin chickens over competition !
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Have you seen the data stream from the DSW?
Not as yet, but I've been speaking to the guys from Rowan and from the sounds of it there's quite a bit to deal with... they're talking about being able to shackle up SD cards and export into SQL databases...
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It's a see who can knock the most tin chickens over competition !
And pigs, turkeys and rams
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It's not a measuring competition !

It's a see who can knock the most tin chickens over competition !
You been sitting at the feet of Mr Daniels again Scott ???
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Not as yet, but I've been speaking to the guys from Rowan and from the sounds of it there's quite a bit to deal with... they're talking about being able to shackle up SD cards and export into SQL databases...
Be interesting to see what it collects and how it can be used. Do you use Scatt's Rob?
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Rob do you have the option to record a hit or miss with the device?
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