Thanks for the reply Pete. I would not want to jeopardize my safety let alone anyone else's safety, and if I ever thought I was I would hang up my rifles and take up tiddlywinks. There is a massive difference between not seeing safely walking round a wood (to which I would deem unsafe) and adjusting to contrast when trying to focus on an individual point. Everything we do uses differing parts of your eyes vision, something many people don't realise, until they have vision issues. I can happily walk down the street, go into shops, read books etc... but if a price ticket was on a shelf in a shadow I would struggle to read it, but move it into the light and its as clear as anything. No I cant drive because of my width of field vision, but I can read a number plate beyond the minimum distance. Am I blind NO (and being blind also doesn't mean you have no vision), am I sight impaired/partially sighted YES. Peoples perception is because I'm registered sight impaired/partially sighted I automatically cant see well enough to do things.
I was planning on shooting the WHFTA this year and asking if I could be paired with a list of people who I would have asked if they minded assisting me if needed but it is clear that I will not be able to.
As for not shooting the UKs the reason is due to this question being raised in the first place.
I appreciate you cant please everyone all the time.
As for the responses to this thread I feel disappointed to think some people have such blinkered views (well id expect little else from some of them to be honest ), its mostly down to a lack of knowledge about visual issues, and its not your fault as its not something many people think about.
So it boils down to: Could the face plates be painted in a luminous/dayglo yellow with a black kill zone?
to enable myself and other sight impaired people to participate in the UKAHFT competitions.
The obvious answer is, YES they can, its not a difficult thing to do, but clearly too many people are against it.
Unfortunately its not practical for individual clubs to facilitate. I'm would hope a few clubs might try it out on some events, and if they do a massive well done, if you do please let me know and I'll try and come down with a few friends.
Its obvious that this sport and those people with visual issues are not perceived compatible. And from some of the replies, seen as an unwanted issue.
Looks like its just another thing I am set to loose, along side my vision, independence, well being and mobility, the sport I have loved for several years and the friends I have made.
I so hope you all, and I man all, don't ever need some help with something later in life and are met with this kind of response.
I would like to thank the UKAHFT and the many clubs I have shot at all the best. And to the majority of shooters that I have met thanks for the banter and laughs.
On a final note:
I hope that in time to come, you look back on this thread and realise that an opportunity was missed.
Oh and to those that don't like the "discrimination word", discrimination can be totally unrecognised
due to not realising an issue, but it can also be a lack of willing action to help solve a problem. Discrimination is not just about unfair treatment, its also down to recognition and understanding of the difference between one thing and another.
All the best
If i shot at a local Club with your condition (and the REALLY bright torch idea that nobody answered didn't work?) i would have some BIG numbers made in any colour that worked for me and ask the local Club if they wouldn't mind trying them.
With some thought they could be made to hang off of or spiked next to the majority of targets...
Good luck to you
Several people have mentioned the luminous cards at the target and Cambridge have asked you to talk to them about a trial of some sort, all of which you have not seemingly considered and are sticking to your single line of different colour targets. People have explained the difficulty of getting cheap paint and the problem of having to prime etc which will naturally be a problem to some clubs.
Unfortunately you have chosen to put this on a public forum as apposed to approaching the individual organisers privately and therefore you should expect that not everyone will sympathise with your cause and there may be some replies you do not like.
The above post just reads " Woe is me" and will not be met with any sympathy....
Sorry to loose a shooter from our sport but all the best in the future.
BE A BETTER PELLET
Last edited by shaun eustace; 18th January 2014 at 05:39 PM.
Please take all my comments as constructive.
You mentioned yourself that most people, with healthy eyes, take all aspects of their vision for granted. They, as you say, will think that you can either see or you need glasses to see or you can't see. Mention to most that someone has a vision issue that means they can't drive and they are saying that they can't see targets and I'm afraid the natural reaction will be ... well that sport isn't for them. You live with this so you know exactly what you can and can't do. To be fair fella, you didn't really give a lot of detail about how your vision causes problems up until your last post.
I sincerely believe that you haven't done this for sympathy and you sincerely believe that any change won't just help you but many others. With all the respect in the world I do feel you could have done it slightly differently. Throughout the thread you seem to be only interested in one outcome ... the UKAHFT change the paint so all affilliated clubs have to do so. That's a lot of clubs and thousands of shooters around the world. I'm not saying it couldn't be done at that level and it may be an advantage to many shooters.
To be fair to UKAHFT the first response you got from them was from Pete Dutton who asked you to trial it at your club and feed back to him.
I honestly believe this would have been your best approach from the start. Maybe contacting Sparky/Dutt and mentioning that you have a sight issue and you feel others may have similar problems, and that you would try and do some trials at your local club and feed back to them. You could then have approached your local club, maybe with a backing note from UKAHFT saying that they were interested in the outcome of any trials to try and accommodate as much as possible any visually impaired UKAHFT shooters.
It appears that people from your local club have posted on here and said that they will talk to you and try and sort something out. So you could speak to them and try various things out, including some suggestions on here ...
Different paint ( incl. costs and ease of use etc )
Large bright boards behind or next to target ( with numbers on )
Maybe allowed to use a lamp to give more light in dull situations
Shooting last in a group to give more time to view targets ( especially when falling down and being reset )
You could have trialled these at your local club and then reported back to UKAHFT. You may have found that it didn't really help, or was too costly, or upset other shooters etc. You may have found that it helped you and others and had no negative affect on other shooters and cost and ease of use were no problem. You would then have been in a good position to ask UKAHFT to consider it as it would mean you and others would be able to attend Nationals and Worlds etc. You could get others from your club to add positive comments to a report that you gave to UKAHFT. UKAHFT may have then asked a large club like Quarry or Rivi to trial it.
It's easy for me to make these comments and you are probably feeling a lot of frustration and anger about your condition at the moment, and understandably so, so it's easy to see how you have become stuck on one train of thought and can't see why others aren't seeing it your way.
It's not too late to go down that route fella. I do sympathise as my own sight issues have been one of the reasons why I have had to look elsewhere other than HFT which I have loved and shot since it first started. I'm lucky I can still shoot it, just not like I used to or with the same enjoyment.
I sincerely wish you well. Please speak to your local lads and see what you can do together to try and help you. I'm sure there are no bridges burned here matey. Internet comments can seem harsh without feeling but I'm sure all the guys who have posted and read the thread would love to help you, and others, any way they could.
Last edited by skires; 17th January 2014 at 06:48 AM.