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Old 20th May 2012, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Waelwulfas View Post
I wonder if I could clarify a few issues? I fail to see how on any level I can be abused by BFTA members as a cheat. I am a disabled person, fact. I could discuss at length the effects of instant deceleration on the body and its long term effects, but I suspect few of us have studied medicine. I have consulted those who have, who have given me there diagnosis'. Thanks to them I lost a career, I'd rather not have the injuries I carry. Please feel free to contact the DWP with any concerns you have, I don't apply for or receive DLA.

As a disabled person I ask the Chief Marshall for dispensation under the current rules.
A majority of people dislike those rules, that is fine, I understand steps are being taken to properly review and amend them as the Association sees fit. Until then it must be perfectly legal for any disabled shooter to ask to use the 'alternative positions'. How that can be cheating I don't know!
The Chief Marshall can always refuse, purely from personal point of view I'd prefer a heads up on that before driving 300 miles to a comp. Again I personally would submit to a registration system where any dispensation, if any can be agreed prior to the season.

I didn't have any input in the disability rules, although it's perhaps worthy of note that I first used them nationally at the 2009 Inters. I was accompanied by the then chair of the BFTA who was satisfied with their application.
Further I haven't joined a shooting club and then sought to impose my will, rather I've been a paid up member of my club for 22 years. When my injuries made shooting difficult I followed the guidance of the BFTA.

Someone has, according to those who know (?) threatened legal actions and European Courts, legal aid has been mentioned? I don't know them. I personally have enquired as to the effect of the recent Disability and Equality Act2010 on my activities as a shooter. This I believe is a similar enquiry to that presumably made by the BFTA and NSRA which are the 'legal' issues which keep fouling any vote at EGM's?
While there is an opportunity for me to compete in FT alongside everyone else, within the rules then I shall do so. If new rules are introduced I shall abide by them.

I'd like to acknowledge the extreme amount of time and work that many members and officers of the BFTA have expended trying to resolve this issue. It is clearly an issue that must be resolved, I could quit but then someone would step up to the plate in the future.

I have in the past been asked not to pursue a debate on this issue on a public forum, as such I don't propose to comment further, I will,hopefully, be attending the June 16th meeting.

Yours in shooting

Ian Challis
Hi Ian, Steve Page here you say you have been shooting for 22 years please forgive my ignorance or crap memory if it is the case but up untill the 2009 inters when i do beleive you shot a 39 i do not recall you winning much (Like myself) so from my own point of view the alternative position has muchly improved your game also being sat on the floor in windy conditions gives a massive advantage over someone no matter how able bodied fully standing. If you cannot kneel due to ill health dodgy knees bad back or whatever i can understand but standing does not comprehend at all an AA S200 weighs about half that of an EV2 so there may be an answer in the weight issue, I know of several shooters that cannot kneel and take everything standing also we have had several members at Castle field target club nudging 80 years and have still competed to the set course including a man with Parkinsons which i have the most admiration for seeing is believing with this guy he can hardly hold the cross hair on the plate never mind the kill.I do not know the answer maybe a seperate class would be the solution but shooters have also got to be honest and responsible as for the tablets and pain killers it is your choice to shoot.
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