well never got a look cos craig was setting it up on the rifle . but it at least looks the part on the zenith . BUT i asked barry what it cost after the dust had settled and he said that it was £ 2000 . PLUS the sidewheel . PLUS the sunshade .not cheap . and he said it without crying . i should say this is the illum version . ??? HOLLY PS i think i will stick with the lupe 20+50 . PSS and what i said about the price of 20+50s going down . noway hosay .