Thank you for your kind comments gentlemen. I was taught these little skills donkey's years ago by the good old boys in their brown smock coats and flat caps, and not once did they ask for anything in return. All they used to say was "nipper, one day you'll be able to help someone else out", and how right they were, it's the least I can do since they took the time to teach me these things. They didn't earn much, most didn't own a car, foreign holidays were just a dream to them, yet they the had skills that some people can only dream of, and were the salt of the earth, wonderful people!. So I have always helped people that didn't have these skills whenever I could, and long may it continue.