I Agee Neil, but I just think the industry owes us more. Many thousands of pounds spent every year but no one can come up with the answer. Today's technology should be able to produce this for us. I not sure the answer is keep quite low. The limit is what it is and that's fine but why can't you run at 11.7 ft\lbs without the fear of a chrono of the day saying you're over the top. Some quite prepared to off load you of£180+ saying this and that, but who knows!