Originally Posted by JonathanN
I can't comment on what was discussed during the meeting but the accepted proposal in the draft minutes does not reflect this, it only addresses how a seat may be used if it is under the knee. if further clarification was needed during the meeting then how could anyone have discussed it before?
if you look at the SWEFTA proposal (in the agenda) there is fully written rule covering all aspects of the kneeling position, by comparison if you follow the same logic with the FFTA proposal then there is no limitation regarding the leading hand etc as the proposal only covers the physical kneeling part , or do we assume this is only an addition to the kneeling rule, if so then it only adds further restrictions to what is already written and doesn't remove the ability to use the seat under the rear ankle.
I read the agenda on the BFTA site when it was posted there and did not interpret the FFTA proposal to be a total re-write of the kneeling rule only an amendment to cover if the seat is placed under the knee as there was no explanation of what issue this was trying to fix, I (and it appears many others) came to the same conclusion.
It should be noted that when a change like this is made to the main shoot rules its not just a few hundred circuit shooter it effects but many thousand club/regional shooters that adopt BFTA rules.
OK - the whole kneeling position was discussed and motions proposed and withdrawn as you pointed out. All the arguments tend to come up as have been repeated here on the thread and the fors and againsts lead nowhere when the real problem is cheating and a real reluctance to enforce existing rules let alone new ones. I am sure you are very aware of these issues and there was nothing new this time. The upshot was that a simple rule was put forward and voted on, in the hope that simple means easier to enforce.
Now for my own view (I have no vote and influence) - I would like to see ankle rolls used, a purer form of kneeling (simple hand and elbow support, no bums on seats) and target placements which are compatible with such positions. Rear foot up or down as elevations change (I get foot cramps but so do many others).
I would not like FT to have ISSF levels of technical rules for kneeling but they are very specific - as are the target positions. However, kneeling should be distinct and not a comfy sitter with one elbow unsupported.
Regions! Start your word processors and construct a motion which makes sense to all.