I think he's refering to the first black tin AA 8.4's
4/3/2013 4.52's s3 00
Think solware had a lot of these in when they were first announced to be from new die's.
Good pellet's by all account's,if they suit your barrel,i tried them in my walther[old barrel] no good.
About as much use at field target , as a life guard at the Olympic swimming pool.