Originally Posted by Ratinator
If you go for the 400 get the classic.
Both good gun,s but one will need a dive bottle .
Don,t rush into you choice ,there,s a massive second hand market if you have patience.
Welcome to the mad house
Welcome, this is good advice, you will need the classic for the shot count 50 targets in a gp, the carbines power will be dropping by the end, not sure you could get 50 shots out of one. If money is an issue then the dive bottle will add £80 + for a second hand, or £140 + for a new 3litre one. As simon says go second hand, get a good 400 for £300-350, same for a tx.same again for 2nd hnd big nikko and you've got a starter setup that can take you to A grade.