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Old 4th September 2012, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by greyskullnz View Post
Realise that this thread is about France.........

The difference in NZ is that it is the person, not the rifle that is the issue, and the person is Licensed. Visitors obtain a visitors license, and can bring whatever they like with them.....barring fully auto military weapons.

The up side for us is that our own Lic regimen now allows us to travel to other Countries and obtain relevant paperwork much easier. We could travel through and to France ourselves under our system.

It is only the UK that could not attend due to your own laws and regulations. Majority of the other members would be in a similar position to us, in that they could travel to France, Germany and other places with power limits requiring permits or licenses once paper work is done. EFP or non European documents, its still possible, but just not for UK shooters.

Its a UK problem, not a "rest oif the world" problem.

Hosting is still a voluntary requirement I believe not mandatory. If The problem still exists when France has its turn, lets hope they can win an exemption for the event, or defer to the next on the list, which I am sure would be a shame and disappointment for them. There would be a few years between now and then, hopefully some alignment between your two legal systems in this regard could be negotiated if heads can get together.........and pressure applied.
Spain also cannot get an EFP. There are other countries also within Europe as well. It's not just a UK problem. If you want I can raise it on the WFTF and we can see exactly who has a problem with EFP's.

We cannot get the French authorities to budge any more than we can get ours to. There is simply not the numbers to consider the problem worthy of discussion. Our only hope is either putting our competition guns on FAC which rules them useless for GB, or buying somewhere in france, and getting a license and thus EFP.

It's my personal opinion that in the case of negligence, someone must be responsible. You can't do (well you can, but i don't think it's fair) waivers unless people are forwarned (like they weren't in SA). Even then I think waivers are a cop out. If you come to a BFTA shoot in GB and through the fault of the organisation there is negligence proven which resulted in an injury, the insurance steps in and pays out. Negligence has to be proven, outside of that though, your stuck. And i suspect it would be problematic if it was a competitor's negligence, but then I would be covered by my NSRA membership public liability. That's all the expectation is, that shooters and the organisation has the public liability cover in place should something happen (again). states that they can organise licenses for visitors, and they also state public liability insurance. Perhaps have a word to see how they've managed it.
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